Return-Path: Delivered-To: craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com Received: from gator4254.hostgator.com by gator4254.hostgator.com with LMTP id yA3YH7EkJ2S+MAEAcizydQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 13:21:37 -0500 Return-path: Envelope-to: craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com Delivery-date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 13:21:37 -0500 Received: from mail-vs1-f47.google.com ([209.85.217.47]:44981) by gator4254.hostgator.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1piJNY-000kBB-UZ for craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 13:21:37 -0500 Received: by mail-vs1-f47.google.com with SMTP id d18so19901419vsv.11 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 11:21:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rosewood-design-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; t=1680286886; x=1682878886; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Pzb/gT+Q+5fAZxw9jeqes7tBkv33+gCB8ax/JkzRnAM=; b=OIbuZfI6LNZ6oY+tE7Ya1ukKJ3rkA2qu2NOu5yk+8+kHvnauOlHurp789M56eSoAum kncoZXSsuvbW4YFGVI25NhB6mGzndPnpNgLf/f32PKU7LEIk0FFmpk16XODNTHZqSEQG lxN2P/CzqFw2HHHWfKYDWWacPNN3BoboWgWO7rwah0KWfD3urq3ougadz5LFVVbC0JSR LR7A8c3Xh4ktuQllfiyQCbpOwSSwzM+HAuE9UgZ8sBksEULrDIn+R5UH0Kz7dF/Ht27V rVgfHCoAFoh9cvyCYjxon4riT+ZrOLIXrLkEkRZGcCo5FtB2F4gpoBjTx5Z9+dVMpnXE w+tw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680286886; x=1682878886; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Pzb/gT+Q+5fAZxw9jeqes7tBkv33+gCB8ax/JkzRnAM=; b=69mQ+d3QaGfBYpMzEelxlOdhieHF93pz+Rq2HE6NDTgnYrpeUEF+GIXwbXowjVug0D xbofr2fl7KeT3pCtlijRWfeOMjw9DRgnDUp0IOPqyReASu9AsRlChb81ymzGBm1rdYCj 2HkHBp4D6dHOnMCs+SkLgjAjy/7QhQUxfH2uz6JdN7mIeuUcbEOgqUVCPeGyyFtk2/Sw H2CPXwYgvya306qshKusOlx5SQ4vrxOgvHRMehdILFZ4UK/N1yefAyl+6NQHKy7F7001 Ic57TyTvD4Bf0HVcBPQlT1i9xJ5s7W8otnmQkBhBuXC1QdzJx8cbaxgURzvR+00ewEKW 2iFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9c8tgGEfbvX/fDNcgjUk2XREoNZwYFE8XidTeljf5ghXFP1TI7/ HlMf30ypFV3rCxHZ0J4/Q6olxInI5E/K61u2BoDTACVZMIKOITqw X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350ZfNuH/9+kPDa9DBSBiKMLGyALCC2+OQ5OLCv7h1RQFDjgRbWWQk26mT9U73k/Eujayy+Z/E8PCo81EhvBxrDE= X-Received: by 2002:a67:c809:0:b0:425:a50e:d326 with SMTP id u9-20020a67c809000000b00425a50ed326mr15116038vsk.4.1680286885924; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 11:21:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3EE86755-6226-41DF-9B6C-23248917FA88@tessol-inc.com> <21e301d9610b$09585a20$1c090e60$@tessol-inc.com> In-Reply-To: <21e301d9610b$09585a20$1c090e60$@tessol-inc.com> From: Ed Holmgren Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 11:21:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: andrews tractor garage To: craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f4f0dc05f836464e" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-Spam-Flag: NO --000000000000f4f0dc05f836464e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds good. What is your actual address? I'll put a design proposal together. Ed Holmgren RoseWood Design www.rosewood-design.com 360.597.6285 On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 5:20=E2=80=AFPM wrot= e: > connected. a covered dog trot. just like the one between the house and > existing garage > > > > *From:* Ed Holmgren > *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2023 4:35 PM > *To:* Craig Andrews > *Subject:* Re: andrews tractor garage > > > > Maybe I misunderstood. Will the roof of the tractor shed be connected to > the garage roof or will it be detached? > > > Ed Holmgren > RoseWood Design > www.rosewood-design.com > 360.597.6285 > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 4:32=E2=80=AFPM Craig Andrews < > craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com> wrote: > > Parallel to what? > > > > An update on the dimensions. > > > > The front will be 33 ft with two doors exact same dimensions for doors an= d > rock as the existing garage. The dog trot will likely be 6ft opening in > front and widen towards the back to maybe 12 feet > > > > There will still be a work bathroom with a shower, and two man doors in > the left and right walls as previously described > > > > No windows other than bathroom > > > > The front and back facia should continue from existing. That will > necessitate that the back soffit will be quite deep, a borderline > cantilevered overhang. That is if we can get it past the county snd HOA > > > > > > > > On Mar 27, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Ed Holmgren wrote: > > =EF=BB=BF > > Craig, > > > > I think we should make the building parallel and just do a small jog in > the back. It will be easier to build and look better. > > > > Will there be any bathroom in this building? How may garage doors, man > doors, windows? > > > Ed Holmgren > RoseWood Design > www.rosewood-design.com > 360.597.6285 > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 8:47=E2=80=AFPM wr= ote: > > Ed, > > > > the 20=E2=80=99x41=E2=80=999=E2=80=9D (140.76=E2=80=99 from lot corner) s= take appears to be 10=E2=80=99 from the > laterals just from eyeballing. > > > > the angle of the garage along the lot line is known and turns out to be > about 25.7 degrees. > > > > the 41=E2=80=999=E2=80=9D with an 8=E2=80=99 dog-trot and if we stay 6=E2= =80=9D from the buildable lot > line, the back wall comes out to be 32 feet. > > > > the left wall 8ft from and parallel to the garage gives a length of 23 > feet. > > > > the right wall that is perpendicular to the property line and 6=E2=80=9D = in from > the buildable lot line on the back is 23 feet to the driveway or 21 feet = if > we leave room for a small apron. > > > > that leaves the front wall to be 22=E2=80=99 > > > > so this is the building envelope: > > > > 32=E2=80=99 along buildable lot line in back > > 21=E2=80=99 right wall > > 23=E2=80=99 left wall > > 22=E2=80=99 front wall along driveway > > > > It won=E2=80=99t be as bad as I first thought. it looks like the front a= nd back > will be parallel and the right wall will be perpendicular to them. the > left wall will be cockeyed with the rest of the walls if the dogtrot is t= o > have parallel walls. > > > > the other option is to have the dog trot a wedge to make the building > envelope rectangular. then it would be 21 feet front to back and 22 feet > left to right. that would make the dog trot 8=E2=80=99 in front and 9=E2= =80=998=E2=80=9D in back. > that would move about 100 sqft from the garage into the dogtrot making th= e > garage about 460 sqft. > > > > regards > > > > craig > > > > *From:* craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 8:43 PM > *To:* 'Ed Holmgren' > *Subject:* RE: andrews tractor garage > > > > Ed, > > > > at this point I don=E2=80=99t know the size, I only know the boundaries. > > > > bound on the left by the common wall with the dog trot > > bound on the back by the buildable lot line > > bound on the right by the 10ft setback from the end of the septic lateral= s > > bound on the front by the driveway > > > > I can find the drain manifold and measure to the corners of the garage, > but I do not know where the laterals start. I can have the septic people > probe for them when we get our tank inspected in a couple of weeks. but > the manifold box will be a good indication within a foot or two probably. > I may have photos to tell if the laterals are inches or feet further away > than the manifold box. > > > > tomorrow I can get a few dimensions from the garage corners to the > driveway where the tractor garage aprons will be. > > > > I would guess 30=E2=80=99 along the back, 20=E2=80=99 along the driveway,= 25=E2=80=99 along the > dogtrot, 20=E2=80=99 on the right by the drain field. but we will see wh= en I get > dims. > > > > for now, I just wanted you to see the scope of the project. > > > > regards > > craig > > > > > > > > *From:* Ed Holmgren > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 5:30 PM > *To:* craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com > *Subject:* Re: andrews tractor garage > > > > Craig, > > > > I'm not sure I fully follow the size of the shop. Can you give me the > dimensions , width and depth please? > > > > I have an idea where it is going to be built but once I get the full > dimensions I can try to lay that out on the pot map to make sure it will > fit. > > > Ed Holmgren > RoseWood Design > www.rosewood-design.com > 360.597.6285 > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 2:07=E2=80=AFPM wr= ote: > > Ed, > > > > The plan package, plot plan, and a stake distance are attached. when we > surveyed for the house we had them put in a few informal stakes for > reference when we were building this tractor garage. so there is the > 32=E2=80=99-6=E2=80=9Dx150.07=E2=80=99 on the property line and the 20=E2= =80=99x140.76=E2=80=99 20ft in on the > buildable lot line > > > > looking at the corner to stake distance diagram. > > > > at right (East=E2=80=99ish) end of the garage is where the tractor garage= goes. > > > > it=E2=80=99s back will be along the buildable lot line. It=E2=80=99s rig= ht end (SE) will > be restricted by the septic drain field distribution valve box that is > somewhere near the 20=E2=80=99 x 140.76=E2=80=99 stake. > > > > the front edge will be dictated by the existing driveway. > > > > we would prefer a covered dog trot between the existing garage and the ne= w > tractor garage, i.e., the roof will be extended over the new construction= . > (the elevation will match the exiting garage) > > > > from the NE corner of the garage it shows 41=E2=80=999=E2=80=9D to the st= ake, with a 8ft > dog trot that leaves 32ft give or take along the back wall buildable lot > line. The garage is 27ft deep so 8=E2=80=99 along the 41=E2=80=99-9=E2= =80=9D buildable lot line > must leave about 20ft for that left (dogtrot) wall. maybe 25ft for the > front wall along the driveway and whatever remainder is between the > driveway and the 20=E2=80=99x140.76=E2=80=99 stake. > > > > there is a mandoor in the existing garage so we would like the man door > into the tractor garage to be directly across the dog trot from that door > and another one either fully opposite on the right side or out the back. > > > > upon entry of that left man door we would like a mud room and > shower/sink/toilet (along the back wall) > > > > Let me know if I missed any needed information. > > > > thanks > > > > craig > > > > > > --000000000000f4f0dc05f836464e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds good. What is your actual address? I'll put a d= esign proposal together.=C2=A0

Ed Holmgren
= RoseWood=C2=A0 Design
www.rosewood-design.com
360.597.6285

=

= On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 5:20=E2=80=AFPM <craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com> wrote:

connected.= =C2=A0 a covered dog trot. just like the one between the house and existing= garage

=C2=A0

= From: Ed Holmgren <ehh@rosewood-design.com>
Sent: Monday, March = 27, 2023 4:35 PM
To: Craig Andrews <craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com>= ;
Subject: Re: andrews tractor garage

=C2=A0

Mayb= e I misunderstood. Will the roof of the tractor shed be connected to the ga= rage roof or will it be detached?=C2=A0

=


Ed Holmgren
RoseWood=C2=A0 Designwww.rosewood= -design.com
360.597.6285

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 4:32=E2= =80=AFPM Craig Andrews <craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com> wrote:=

Parallel = to what?

=C2=A0

An update on the dimensions.=C2= =A0

=C2=A0=

The front will be 33 ft with two door= s exact same dimensions for doors and rock as the existing garage. The dog = trot will likely be 6ft opening in front and widen towards the back to mayb= e 12 feet

=C2=A0<= u>

There will still be a work bath= room with a shower, and two man doors in the left and right walls as previo= usly described

= =C2=A0

No windows other than ba= throom

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The front and back facia should co= ntinue from existing. That will necessitate that the back soffit will be qu= ite deep, a borderline cantilevered overhang. That is if we can get it past= the county snd HOA

<= /u>=C2=A0

=C2=A0<= /p>



On Mar 27, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Ed Holmgren <ehh@rosewood-design.com<= /a>> wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 8= :47=E2=80=AFPM <craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com> wrote:

Ed,=

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the 20=E2=80=99x41=E2=80=999=E2=80=9D (140.76=E2=80=99 from lot corne= r) stake appears to be 10=E2=80=99 from the laterals just from eyeballing.= =C2=A0

=C2=A0

the angle of the garage along the lot line is known and= turns out to be about 25.7 degrees.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

the 41=E2=80=999=E2= =80=9D with an 8=E2=80=99 dog-trot and if we stay 6=E2=80=9D from the build= able lot line, the back wall comes out to be 32 feet.

=C2=A0

the left = wall 8ft from and parallel to the garage gives a length of 23 feet.<= u>

=C2=A0

the right wall that is perpendicular to the property line and 6=E2=80= =9D in from the buildable lot line on the back is 23 feet to the driveway o= r 21 feet if we leave room for a small apron.

=C2=A0

that leaves the f= ront wall to be 22=E2=80=99

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so this is the building envelope:

=C2=A0

32=E2=80=99 along buildable lot line in back

21=E2=80=99 right wall

23=E2=80=99 left wall

22= =E2=80=99 front wall along driveway

=C2=A0

It won=E2=80=99t be as bad = as I first thought.=C2=A0 it looks like the front and back will be parallel= and the right wall will be perpendicular to them.=C2=A0 the left wall will= be cockeyed with the rest of the walls if the dogtrot is to have parallel = walls.

=C2=A0

the other option is to have the dog trot a wedge to make= the building envelope rectangular.=C2=A0 then it would be 21 feet front to= back and 22 feet left to right.=C2=A0 that would make the dog trot 8=E2=80= =99 in front and 9=E2=80=998=E2=80=9D in back.=C2=A0 that would move about = 100 sqft from the garage into the dogtrot making the garage about 460 sqft.=

=C2=A0

regards

=C2=A0

craig

=C2=A0

From: craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com <= ;craig.an= drews@tessol-inc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 8:4= 3 PM
To: 'Ed Holmgren' <ehh@rosewood-design.com>
Subjec= t: RE: andrews tractor garage

=C2=A0

Ed,=

=C2=A0

a= t this point I don=E2=80=99t know the size, I only know the boundaries.<= /u>

=C2=A0

bound on the left by the common wall with the dog trot

bound on the back by the buildable lot line=

bound on the right by the 10ft setbac= k from the end of the septic laterals

bound on the front by the driveway

=C2=A0

I can find the drain mani= fold and measure to the corners of the garage, but I do not know where the = laterals start.=C2=A0 I can have the septic people probe for them when we g= et our tank inspected in a couple of weeks.=C2=A0 but the manifold box will= be a good indication within a foot or two probably.=C2=A0 I may have photo= s to tell if the laterals are inches or feet further away than the manifold= box.

=C2=A0

tomorrow I can get a few dimensions from the garage corne= rs to the driveway where the tractor garage aprons will be. <= /p>

=C2=A0

I = would guess 30=E2=80=99 along the back, 20=E2=80=99 along the driveway, 25= =E2=80=99 along the dogtrot, 20=E2=80=99 on the right by the drain field.= =C2=A0 but we will see when I get dims.

=C2=A0

for now, I just wanted = you to see the scope of the project.

=C2=A0

regards

<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">craig

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From: E= d Holmgren <ehh@rosewood-design.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023= 5:30 PM
To: craig.andrews@tessol-inc.com
Subject: Re: andre= ws tractor garage

=C2=A0

Craig,

=C2=A0

I'm not sure I fully follow=C2=A0the size of the shop. Can you give me= the dimensions=C2=A0, width and depth please?=C2=A0

=C2=A0

I have an idea where it is going to be built but once I get the= full dimensions=C2=A0I can try to lay that out on the pot map to make sure= it will fit.=C2=A0


Ed Holmgren
RoseWood=C2=A0 Design
www.rosewood-design.com360.597.6285

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0

<= div>

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 2:07=E2=80=AFPM <= ;craig.an= drews@tessol-inc.com> wrote:

Ed,

=C2=A0

The plan package, plot p= lan, and a stake distance are attached.=C2=A0 when we surveyed for the hous= e we had them put in a few informal stakes for reference when we were build= ing this tractor garage.=C2=A0 so there is the 32=E2=80=99-6=E2=80=9Dx150.0= 7=E2=80=99 on the property line and the 20=E2=80=99x140.76=E2=80=99 20ft in= on the buildable lot line

=C2=A0

looking at the corner to stake dista= nce diagram.

=C2=A0

at right (East=E2=80=99ish) end of the garage is w= here the tractor garage goes.

=C2= =A0

it=E2=80=99s back will be along= the buildable lot line.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s right end (SE) will be restrict= ed by the septic drain field distribution valve box that is somewhere near = the 20=E2=80=99 x 140.76=E2=80=99 stake.

=C2=A0

the front edge will be= dictated by the existing driveway.

=C2=A0

we would prefer a covered d= og trot between the existing garage and the new tractor garage, i.e., the r= oof will be extended over the new construction.=C2=A0 (the elevation will m= atch the exiting garage)

=C2=A0<= /u>

from the NE corner of the garage it sh= ows 41=E2=80=999=E2=80=9D to the stake, with a 8ft dog trot that leaves 32f= t give or take along the back wall buildable lot line.=C2=A0 The garage is = 27ft deep so 8=E2=80=99 along the 41=E2=80=99-9=E2=80=9D buildable lot line= must leave about 20ft for that left (dogtrot) wall.=C2=A0 maybe 25ft for t= he front wall along the driveway and whatever remainder is between the driv= eway and the 20=E2=80=99x140.76=E2=80=99 stake.

=C2=A0

there is a ma= ndoor in the existing garage so we would like the man door into the tractor= garage to be directly across the dog trot from that door and another one e= ither fully opposite on the right side or out the back.

=C2=A0

upon en= try of that left man door we would like a mud room and shower/sink/toilet (= along the back wall)

=C2=A0<= u>

Let me know if I missed any needed informa= tion.

=C2=A0

thanks

=C2=A0<= /u>

craig

=C2=A0

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